We received the following e-mail yesterday.
(I have added asterisks to the e-mail to avoid causing offence)
Original message
From: "John M. Jones" john.jones@cec.eu.int
To: metricmartyrs@btconnect.com
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:55 PM
youre a bunch of f***ing luddites. Metric has to win cos thats what we learnt at school. Long live England. long live metric, with 5 metricunits names after Uk scientists and 2 Uk directors of the metre bureau. The imperialists are dead in the water.
ps: what in hell are you actually defending?
look at great countries like australia and new zealand if you cant stand europe.
you luddites in england make me sick.
I then replied to Mr. Jones (e-mail copied below):
Looks like understanding (or writing) plain English is not one of your strong points. Read what the whole thing was actually about and not what you assume it was about. You probably didn't really pay that much attention at school either.
Love Europe.
Just can't abide the corrupt, profligate undemocraticEuropeanUnion, and object to having laws made by the unaccountable.
You wouldn't happen to have a vested interest in the institution, would you?
Look forward to your reply.
ps. No comment on great countries...USA?
Are they metric? Being a luddite I couldn't even spell Apollo...was he the Greek god named after US metric moonrockets or sumfink?
When you know what you're talking about I'll send you a couple of tickets to the real world where we live... assuming that you would have someone for theother ticket.
Loser!
What then followed was a lengthy missive from him which I have copied below. However, it concerned me that this gentleman was, because of his e-mail address, working for the European Commission in some capacity. He was using resources paid for by the taxpayer to conduct his private, and offensive business. His reply below is followed up with my response in the next blog posting above.
With all due respect, Mr Herron,
(a) you do not understand British humour and
(b) I suggest you are the one in need of a ticket to the real world.
Bar the obvious exception of the United States, which I take it is the only´great´ country you could think of, the rest of the world is totally metric.
Go and see for yourself if you don´t believe me.
Take a tour of Europe to start with (just put the EU out of your mind first) and make sure you visit the Republic of Ireland which successfully switched to metric road signage in January.
You say you like Europe but not the EU.
Well,take your choice.
All the EU countries are fully metric, even little old Malta (funny that they should want to join such a corrupt outfit as the EU) and our own dependency Gibraltar, staunchly British but not ashamed to have metric road signage and no les British for it. And of course part of the EU too.
You prefer the English speaking world? (I guessed!)
Most people like you do.
Well, try Australia and New Zealand.
Great places, though I only knowAustralia. Fully metric because they want the best system of weights and measures and want to be part of the modern world.
Try South Africa. AnotherCommonwealth country and fully metric.
Try Canada.As to the EU, I won´t dwell on the subject because clearly it is something you dislike.
Shame.
Britain has played a vital part in shaping it over thelast 30 years. Without it we wouldn´t have any environmental regulation because the concept didn´t exist in Europe until the EU put it on the agenda.
I don´t suppose you see any link between the inexorable rise inliving standards in the UK over the last 30 years and Britain´s membership of the EU.
Well, you wouldn´t, would you.
Imperialists I have spoken to invariably hate the EU and see metrication as a product of Brussels.
Clearly most of the world does not see it that way.The modern metric system is the only way forward for Britain and has benefited from substantial input from British scientists and workers. 5metric units are named in honour of UK scientists.
I won´t bore you with them as you are mainly concerned with trying to stop the progress of kilometres and kilograms. But if you don´t like metric, don´t ever use electricity because the whole system is metric.
Come to that, don´t buy a car either. It was all designed in metric.
I could go on, but I don´t want to waste your time.
Completing metrication in our country is in the national interest and patriots support the country´s progress. Blocking progress and naturaldevelopment is undemocratic and unpatriotic. My great-grandfather demonstrated against the great evil invention of his time, the motor car.He was the equivalent of the imperialist of his day (to think of it, why dowe need an imperial system? We don´t have an empire. And the empire we hadis totally metric).
I trust you will have found the English more to your own accustomed standard this time. There is little point in continuing this dialogue though because we will probably not agree on anything.I won´t have convinced you of anything, I know.
Your motto is: don´t confuse me with the facts, I´ve made up my mind.
And as for your insults, if you need to resort to them in order to bolster your argument, then you´ve really lost it, haven´t you? So who´s the real loser?
Don´t bother replying.
Wednesday, March 09, 2005
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7 comments:
Ahh!! The British sense of humour.
This bloke seems to be overheating on metrication.
I still in fact by my electricity in feet and inches.
A pound to a penny he's Welsh
No doubt Mr Jones is working on a secret EU policy to force the UK to drive on the right like the rest of Europe. Of course, to be phased in over 5 years with buses & trucks first!
Mr Jones accuses Neil of insulting behaviour when his email is most disgusting, crass and vulgar. As a public servant he should be severely admoonished with loss of pay if not dismissed for using his position to abuse those that have a different point of view. He is an example of the modern bigot that has nothing but propaganda set in concrete between their ears.
Dear Mr Jones,
I have to hand an email which bears your name and email address, but I cannot imagine or believe it is written by an authentic EU Official (going by the email address) as it contains grammar befitting a ill-educated spotty thug; it is riddled with bad spelling (who ever writes the name of a country in 'lower case' - only an idiot learning to be a moron) and it contains a written obscenity used as an adjective.
Even the worst borstal school in England (note the Capital letter) would not permit its worst inmate to leave with the idea that spelling England all in 'lower case' was acceptable. It cannot be an EU Official who starts a sentence without a capital letter?
The only happy consolation we might have Mr Jones, is that the person who stole your identity will continue to make himself even more sick and find himself/herself into an early grave.
Yours sincerely,
Captain Bryn Wayt
PS: Perhaps if you can give me your surface mail address, so I can write to your superior (and the police) and warn him that identity theft has surely occurred within your department, as no educated man (assuming it is a man behind the email attack on Mr Herron) would make such elementary mistakes of such low intellect? I am copying this email to my own MEP (and others) that he/they be warned of this identity theft.
I'm slightly at a loss over this one - please help...
As a really big fan of this whole cause, and more importantly the way the fight has been taken to shady politicians and leaders by determined "ordinary folk", I'm not totally comfortable at rounding on every EU supporter, however distasteful the remarks of Mr Jones are.
I'm attempting to take a step back, for I personally see Mr Jones as ill informed about the whole Metric Martyr campaign, but I really don't think he knew of the sad loss of Steve Thorburn, and what that ultimately meant to the campaign team and Steve's family.
I certainly don't think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the whole Metric Martyr campaign was, and still is, just about the way we measure produce. Whatever the system of measure, it was the nasty and seemingly vindictive pressure applied to the very people who form the backbone of this great nation.
Those who right across this land get up at the crack of dawn, whatever the weather, and provide a service to their community (or trudge through the day in a factory/office) and ultimately feed their family.
In my humble opinion, Steve and Neil were, and still are, fighting for us all...the ordinary folk.
Mr Jones was stupid, bad mannered and offensive, but a mere tiddler in the ocean full of sharks.
With the best will in the world, we can't fight every Mr Jones.
Long live the People's Campaign.
Jones seems to be apopletic about 'imperialism' and the British empire. Our system of weights and measures of course pre-dated the empire and is based on easily grasped units. The pint has been traced back to the Neolithic period. On the other hand, the metric system was mainly enforced on Europe by the Emperor Napoleon - a truly imperial system - like many other aspects of Continental life. Our protest surely is that we are happy to use either system when it suits us and our customers but we do not wished to be forced to use the Napoleonic system to the exclusion of our own system.
Ian
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