Sunday, September 18, 2005

Constitutional Storm Clouds Gather over Sunderland

Christopher Booker's Notebook
Sunday Telegraph
18th September 2005

Labour assault on constitution

Ministers are said to be so alarmed by the latest twist in the row over the legality of automatic penalties - the billions of pounds raised each year by parking fines, penalties for late tax returns and so forth - that they are considering emergency legislation.

This extraordinary story began with a ruling by Lord Justice Laws in the "Metric Martyrs" case that certain Acts of Parliament, such as the Bill of Rights Act 1689, are "constitutional statutes" which cannot be overridden by subsequent legislation, unless this is made "expressly clear". It was on this point that the judge decided that the Metric Martyrs, including the late Steve Thoburn, should be found guilty.

But a central provision of the Bill of Rights is that no one can be fined except by the judgment of a court. For more than a year therefore, Neil Herron, the Metric Martyrs campaign director, has been questioning the legality of the automatic parking fines imposed by the 142 councils that operate "decriminalised" parking schemes under the 1991 Road Traffic Act, since motorists penalised under these schemes have no recourse to a court. Their only appeal is to the National Parking Adjudication Service, which is run on behalf of and financed by the councils involved, and which is anyway on record denying that it is a court of law.

Sunderland city council -which originally seized Mr Thoburn's scales - had so many motorists using the "Bill of Rights defence" to justify non-payment of these automatic penalties that it sought legal advice. Eleanor Sharpston QC said that, since it was the intention of the 1991 Act that the Bill of Rights should be set aside, the penalties are legal.

Here, however, Miss Sharpston is impaled on a hook, because it was she who represented Sunderland in the metric case, which she only won because of Laws's ruling; and Laws was unequivocal in saying that the Bill of Rights can only be overridden where Parliament makes this "expressly clear".

The 1991 Act does nothing of the kind. The only way Miss Sharpston can defend her latest opinion is by rejecting the very ruling that won her the case. If she is right, the Metric Martyrs' case should be quashed.

So many people are using the "Bill of Rights defence" to justify non-payment of automatic penalties - HM Customs has backed down more than once over refusal to pay surcharges for late VAT returns - that, according to Birmingham city council last week, Government lawyers are considering emergency legislation to override the Bill of Rights.

But, as Mr Herron points out, the Bill of Rights itself only enshrines the Declaration of Rights, which was a solemn contract between Sovereign and People, and which Parliament has no power to undo.

When those Sunderland officials seized Mr Thoburn's scales in 2000, they can little have guessed what a constitutional can of worms they were about to open.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great stuff, Neil, I have already used this against late penalties by the dictators of Companies House and they don't know what to do. I got a voluminous letter trying to justify it and saying that, 'no matter what, you MUST pay' but I have not done so.
Donald.

Anonymous said...

You've got them between a rock and a hard place.
Brilliant.
Well done.. again.
JO

Anonymous said...

I just love it that there is someone with the knowhow and tenacity to get stuck in to these smug bastards
Rod the Brit

Anoneumouse said...

Kep at it Neil and for all you who read the comments here, remember, Divorce is not a Conviction.

http://saxontimes.blogspot.com/2005/02/is-divorce-conviction.html

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Anonymous said...

Nice one Neil, saw this in the Telegraph today. Fantastic, essentially local authorities are breaking the law to enforce the law.

Anonymous said...

Neil,
I hate to say this but I think the metric judgement is a red herring.
Even if the Secretary of State made reference to wrong law (the 1972 EEC Act) when making his 1994 metric Regulations, a reasonable court of law would also determine whether "sufficient other law" might enable such Regulations to stand. Justice Laws decision did just that. The 1985 Weights and Measures Act itself provides such "sufficient other law". e.g. - Part 1, s. 8.1(b) By law Traders must only use units listed in Schedule 3 of the Act. And then - s. 8.6(a) allows the Secretary of State to remove from Schedule 3 any units of measurement (s 8.7 provides transitional powers). Pounds, yards, miles..... anything! All may be legally abolished by Ministerial Order or Regulation! Nothing to do with the 1972 Act. Justice Laws statement on "Constitutional" Acts was a silly diversion from his main judgement - has no legal force - and it is discredited in legal circles! Which means if you try to rely on it for non payment of fines - citing the bill of rights - then I think you will lose.
Having said that I still really hope I'm wrong and you are right.
Regards
Chris Cooke, Tamworth.

Anonymous said...

Sadly the Bill of Rights has all ready been over ridden when the pistol ban came into place so the government will just ignore it as it wants to all the Constitutional arguments failed then and will again.

Anonymous said...

With regards to the pistol ban comment. The ruling was based on the fact that the appellant had several psyciatric reports detailing his unstable mind. The judge ruled that in accordence with the provisions of the Human rights act, 'everyone has the right to life', he could not overturn the verdict. The right for prodestent to carry arms was never intentionally ruled on, it was more the appellants state of mind.

JohnJo said...

"Which means if you try to rely on it for non payment of fines - citing the bill of rights - then I think you will lose."

Ahh but non payment of fines, I suspect, is not Neil's ultimate intention. It's a marvellous game being played out here in front of us and it all started on a single day when the bullies started pushing around the wrong little people.

Anonymous said...

Anonymouse,
In fact the Metric martyr’s judgment upheld the RKBA.

That is because it was based on Mike Burkes High Court Judgment following an application to retain his certificated pistols for self defence.

He made applications to his Chief Constable for a police permit and to the Home Secretary for a Section 5 authority. They were ignored and denied “as a matter of policy” respectively. He challenged them in the High Court and LJ Popplewell ruled that the Firearms Act did not repeal Article 7 of the Bill of Rights in plain language but it did by implication.

The Sportsmen’s Association approached Michael Shrimpton QC for an opinion. He accepted implied repeal was permissible and later quoted Burkes Judgment in the Magistrates Court stage of the Metric Martyrs case. LJ Laws then did the decent thing and confirmed that implied repeal of constitutional statutes was not on. Burkes Judgment therefore confirms that the law abiding subject is entitled to possess arms for defence.

Regards, John Hurst.

Anonymous said...

Chris Cook,
I disagree that the Metric Martyrs judgment is a red herring, although it is flawed in two crucial respects. Firstly the ECA 1972 is not a constitutional statute because it did not alter the subjects constitutiona l rights. There were numerous assurances that this was so during the debates and in any case it would be ultra vires for Parliament to give our rights away.

Secondly Magna Carta confirms that there may only be “one measure” in the Kingdom, not two.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the so called “pistol ban”, the House of Commons Library confirmed that the recent legislation did not affect the Bill of Rights because it was never mentioned;

Gun control and the Bill of Rights.

The library has received a large number of enquiries, which appear to be the result of campaigns among shooters opposing the new provisions on firearms control. Because of the initial influx of such enquiries, I prepared a section on the alleged constitutional implications of the then Bill as part of our research paper which we published for its second reading debate.
There are a numbers of variants of the message sent to members which contain a reference to the Members oath of allegiance. I assume that the argument put forward by shooters is along the following lines;

(1) The Bill of Rights 1689 requires all officers and ministers to serve the Monarch according to its provisions.

(2) The Bill of Rights 1689 protects citizen’s rights to bear arms and not to have their property confiscated.

(3) Therefore Members who support this sessions legislation may be in breach of their oath of allegiance.

The 1997 Act does not appear to refer at all to the 1689 Statute, and any claims that the earlier statute has been impliedly amended or, indeed, that Parliament has no power to make such amendments, would have to be matters for the Courts if put before them.

It is perhaps of interest that, notwithstanding the apparently widespread lobbying on Bill of Rights grounds, virtually no mention of this argument was made during the Bill’s passage through Parliament”

(Document Ref. 4321 97/3/14HA BKW/aor. 4th March 1997)


Mike Burkes Judgment is confirmation of the RKBA,

Anonymous said...

“Lord Justice Laws statement on "Constitutional" Acts was a silly diversion from his main judgement - has no legal force - and it is discredited in legal circles! Which means if you try to rely on it for non payment of fines - citing the bill of rights - then I think you will lose.
Having said that I still really hope I'm wrong and you are right”.
Regards
Chris Cooke, Tamworth.

Chris, they would say that, wouldn’t they. Here is an article on the true significance of the Metric Martyrs Judgment;

The "Metric Martyrs" and the Constitution
Sean Gabb
On Monday the 18th February 2002, judgment was given in the Court of Appeal on the "Metric Martyrs" case (Thoburn v Sunderland City Council. These were appeals from four men who had in different ways been told by lower courts that it was no longer legal for them to use the English system of weights and measures for any purpose of trade. The grounds of their appeal were that the relevant laws had been made further to powers contained in the European Communities Act 1972, whereas it appeared that their right to continued use of the English system had been protected by the Weights and Measures Act 1985. According to the doctrine of implied repeal, an earlier Act cannot be used to amend or repeal a later Act. Instead, where any conflict arises between Acts of Parliament that cannot be smoothed by judicial interpretation, the later one always takes precedence: leges posteriores priores contrarias abrogant .
What made this case so important was that it was brought to clarify the constitutional status of our membership of the European Union. Either the Judges could apply the doctrine of implied repeal, in which case, our membership of the European Union was compromised to whatever degree the European Communities Act had been repealed, or they could announce that Parliament was no longer sovereign, and that we were now unambiguously under the rule of a centralising, Roman Law despotism based outside this country. In the judgment given last Monday, the four men lost their case. According to Lord Justice Laws and Mr Justice Crane, the 1972 Act was protected against implied repeal by the 1985 Act, and the English system of weights and measures has been legally abolished to the degree stated in the disputed laws…………..
http://www.seangabb.co.uk/flcomm/flc063.htm

Anonymous said...

The so called “Parking Tribunals” are in fact forbidden by Article 3 of the Bill of Rights, the prohibition on “Star Chambers”;

“That the Commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiasticall Causes and all other Commissions and Courts of like nature are Illegall and Pernicious…..”.

Anonymous said...

how can our Contitutional rights ever be simply "set aside"?, it seems we are rapidly approaching a USSR, East Germany thinking Parliament here!

Rob

Anonymous said...

be very careful Neil, remember that David Kelly and Princess Diana were probably Murdered by this Government

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